Community Thoughts on Animal Equality and Rights

·Apr 30, 2025 06:49 PM·

I feel like this community might have thoughts about https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/27/some-animals/#are-more-equal-than-others

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Ashley
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yea, i’ve always wondered how long and what it would take for the eng bubble to bust
jared
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The author makes some very interesting points, including suggesting that the US outsourced the least desirable jobs once the union-demanded fair pay/environment made those jobs more pricey here than in other countries where lower wages and less healthy environments are the norm, and that THOSE are the jobs that the tariffs are trying to bring back to the US.
Sarah Betts
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It done busted
jared
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so... if that works, then wouldn't a subsequent re-establishment of lower tariff free trade just result in re-outsourcing of those jobs?
Sarah Betts
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We really got ourselves into an interesting position as workers - workers in reality, but managerial class in practice. Now that it's so easy to hire outside the US where COL is low and protections are (were) less, we don't have much power.
jared
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yup.
Ashley
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they have said out loud that they want to outsource engineers bc non american engineers are more productive and educated
Ashley
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and cheaper
jared
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I'm sure that Harbor Freight sells more tools (at least by quantity) than Snap-on.
Sarah Betts
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The article also makes the point that onshoring jobs is actually good, since supply chains are not always reliable. Maybe it's actually time to band together as humans (not Americans or Peruvians or what have you) and demand to be treated like humans
Sarah Betts
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I'm all for some global worker unity
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Ashley
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labor is in such a weird place rn
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Ashley
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how many people are side hustling because they actually need more income vs for funsies
Ashley
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all of these companies create gig work or create platforms to make it easy for people to build side hustles, for a capitalist economy that doesn’t support that kind of work 🫠
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jared
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My buddy who studied Econ taught me "The market will pay what the market will bear." Seems true of every market I can think of, but since markets are emotional, "what the market will bear" often changes.

Ashley
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yea, i’ve always wondered how long and what it would take for the eng bubble to bust
jared
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The author makes some very interesting points, including suggesting that the US outsourced the least desirable jobs once the union-demanded fair pay/environment made those jobs more pricey here than in other countries where lower wages and less healthy environments are the norm, and that THOSE are the jobs that the tariffs are trying to bring back to the US.
Sarah Betts
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It done busted
jared
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so... if that works, then wouldn't a subsequent re-establishment of lower tariff free trade just result in re-outsourcing of those jobs?
Sarah Betts
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·
We really got ourselves into an interesting position as workers - workers in reality, but managerial class in practice. Now that it's so easy to hire outside the US where COL is low and protections are (were) less, we don't have much power.
jared
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yup.
Ashley
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they have said out loud that they want to outsource engineers bc non american engineers are more productive and educated
Ashley
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·
and cheaper
jared
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·
I'm sure that Harbor Freight sells more tools (at least by quantity) than Snap-on.
Sarah Betts
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·
The article also makes the point that onshoring jobs is actually good, since supply chains are not always reliable. Maybe it's actually time to band together as humans (not Americans or Peruvians or what have you) and demand to be treated like humans
Sarah Betts
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·
I'm all for some global worker unity
❤️1
Ashley
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·
labor is in such a weird place rn
☝️1
Ashley
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·
how many people are side hustling because they actually need more income vs for funsies
Ashley
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all of these companies create gig work or create platforms to make it easy for people to build side hustles, for a capitalist economy that doesn’t support that kind of work 🫠
💡1
jared
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My buddy who studied Econ taught me "The market will pay what the market will bear." Seems true of every market I can think of, but since markets are emotional, "what the market will bear" often changes.